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HOLLY: I think it's so important.
We don't do it enough.

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We're reorganizing in Alberta
to bring all of the sector CIOs,

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or Elizabeth's role,
into one shop.

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And from there, to be able to balance business
needs and to be able to look out through

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them at their external stakeholders,
which is so important.

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But the piece that we often overlook is the federal
and provincial lens together

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because there are things happening at a federal level
that Elizabeth talked about today in our

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panels and I went "Hey, that's really
great, we should connect" and there are

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things happening provincially that we
might have a different way of doing things

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or be focused in a different way.
And I think traditionally there's been a

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bit of a wall between the federal and
provincial, but seeing more of that and

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not just in FPTs or traditional
committee sense, but really working

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together as colleagues,
being able to reach out and go

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"Hey, you've got this challenge too
at a different level.

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What are you doing and
how can we learn and work together

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and be a better overall
government at all levels?"

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ELIZABETH: Yeah, absolutely.

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ELIZABETH: Aside from... if we look at the private
sector, I'll also include academia there,

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as resources and partners in our
digital journey, there's different ways

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we have to look at how we do that.
One thing we're doing with... we're also at the PSC

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we're a member of the CIO strategy Council,
where we have public and private CIOs

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coming together talking about the issues.
A lot of the issues we talk about isn't

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technology or specific technologies, it's
people, it's culture, it's talent, it's how do

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we attract and help nurture the talent
within our organizations, as well as

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the workforce of the future.

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So there are some opportunities here,
beyond just buy and sell if you will,

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that are going to be
so cornerstone to the success of

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everyone from a digital perspective
that if we don't do it together

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nobody will get there.

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HOLLY: Well, I think it's been awesome
and I would echo that one of the things

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that I think we miss out on is we bring
private sector in as a contractor, or as a

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consultant, or as a contract in government,
but what we aren't doing is

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leveraging those skills and knowledge to
bring it back in-house and make sure our

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workforce is the smarter and the
stronger as we finish that work.

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And I think events like these give us an
opportunity to connect with people who

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are doing work with government, who are
familiar with the government environment,

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but bring skills that we don't have.
But again, just to build on that, I think what

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we need to do is make sure that those
skills aren't walking in and then walking out

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and that we can build a
stronger strategic partnership with

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industry by saying "When you come in
leave the world a better place when you go"

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and help our employees be able to
reach further out and do more.

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So I think that's one way, and then from the
academia perspective, I really do think

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that there's an opportunity for us to
look at what the economy is,

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what the trends are in the workforce and work
with them to understand what the

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barriers are for people getting into
those educational opportunities,

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finding placements, bringing in interns,
because they're keen. They want to do work.

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They're motivated to get that experience
and really the skills that we're talking

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about in tech are all those new trends
and what a great place to get them but

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from the youth and the folks who are
entering the workforce.

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Bring them in. They make us smarter.
They make us look better

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and hopefully we provide an opportunity for a career
for them as they go forward.

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ELIZABETH: I think today has been
a great success.

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I think just even getting together
with our colleagues

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from the province, with the
KPMG, our chair, and it was really

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an opportunity for us to see what's
similar and you'll see even from the

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panel that we were on together that
we're all facing a lot of the...

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either the same challenges or we have the same
opportunities ahead of us.

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So it was really great. I think it's an
important day to come together.

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HOLLY: And I think what's neat about the Public
Sector Network events as well is that as

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you go to a few of them you connect with
different people in different regards,

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but you find out that the passions
extend to the next event.

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So you might meet one in a leadership role
and then you find out that they actually

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have a technology lead
and you work with them there.

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And I think that that's powerful.

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I found out that one of the vendors,
industry folk, in this part of this show

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is actually meeting with our CISO on Friday
to do a leadership podcast.

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So I connected with the two of them and
so I think it's a really great way to

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build new relationships and strengthen
the Canadian economy because really

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that's... government's there to do that and
and to help inspire it.